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 Post subject: PS2>360 converter! reliable! beter laat dan nooit!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:15 pm 
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ik weet niet van jullie, maar zelf heb ik lang gezocht naar een goede ps2>360 oplossing en naar alle waarschijnlijkheid is die er eindelijk! (ik moet alle shit eigenlijk nog lezen, heb em vrij rancuneus al gekocht :p )

dit betekent lagvrij spelen met je ps2 sticks etc. op 360.

ik heb zelf meteen eentje via ebay besteld (omgerekend 23 euro incl.verzendkosten)
hij komt uit korea http://www.joytron.co.kr/goods/view.asp?g_code=CD007-00377

hier een writeup van srk.com
Kyle, I think it'd be best to edit the first post of this thread with information regarding PlayStation X to Xbox 360 converters and what you can and cannot use to bypass the Microsoft security scheme.

Although I haven't used an XConverter 360 yet myself, I have used the XFPS and the Max Shooter and I can't imagine the XConverter 360 would function any differently with regards to the passthrough technology used to bypass Microsoft's controller security.

YOU CANNOT USE A WIRELESS XBOX 360 CONTROLLER WITH A PLAY AND CHARGE KIT TO BYPASS THE SECURITY SCHEME!!!

It simply won't work. The Play and Charge Kit does NOT send any controller input data through the USB charging cable. The charging cable only sends voltage through it to recharge the batteries on your wireless controller. Although you can use the P&C Kit to automatically sync a wireless controller to the Xbox 360 you plug it into, it will not function as a proper pass through for any PSX to X360 converter on the market. PERIOD. No "What-ifs" about it.

What does work however is basically every other controller made for the X360 that isn't wireless. Although the manufacturers of these converters (XCM, Mayflash, and now Joytron) recommend that you use the official Microsoft wired controllers, the truth is any wired controller will do since the only aspect of the controller that the converter utilizes is Microsoft's security chip to trick the X360 into believing the converter is a genuine Microsoft approved controller. This entails:

- The official Microsoft Xbox 360 Wired Controllers (and the PC Windows LIVE controllers since they're just repackaged X360 ones)
- Any Mad Catz wired controller: This entails any of their 3rd party controllers, all X360 FightPads, all X360 FightSticks (yes, both the Standard and Tournament Editions), the Xbox LIVE Arcade Retro Stick, and even that Saitek Aviator Flight Stick.
- Any Hori wired controller: This entails any of Hori's wired X360 controllers, the EX2 (and all variants), the Real Arcade Pro EX (and all variants), and even those crazy cool but expensive accessories like the X360 Virtual-On Oratorio Tangram Twin Sticks or their Ace Combat 6 Ace Edge Flight Sticks.
- Any wired "instrument" controller: Yes, you read this right. You can indeed use your assorted Rock Band or Guitar Hero instruments as a passthrough controller for the reason above that all the converter cares about is the security chip inside your wired controller. As with every other brand listed, this ONLY applies to the wired instruments that actually send an active data stream through its USB cord. You obviously can't use any wireless instruments or any instruments that use the USB to recharge the battery of the instrument (I don't own Rock Band or Guitar hero, so I don't know if these accessories exist; someone correct me if I'm wrong). Note that the Rock Band microphones do NOT WORK as a bypass controller. They don't have a Microsoft security chip in them oddly enough.

Caveat emptor!! ANY CONTROLLER THAT HAS BEEN USED AS A SECURITY PASSTHROUGH CANNOT BE USED ON THAT XBOX 360 WHILE THE CONVERTER YOU'RE USING IS STILL PLUGGED IN!!

That means if you use a FightStick to passthrough Microsoft's security scheme on a converter, you can forget about using it as a second controller. This is because each and every wired (and I'd presume wireless as well, though this info is uselss for our purposes) controller has a unique ID which the X360 temporarily registers while it's plugged in. Your passthrough controller technically "gave up" it's ID to your converter so now your converter has your controller's ID, meaning that plugging your passthrough controller into another USB port will be useless since your X360 simply won't recognize it at all. However, unplug your converter and you can use your passthrough converter just fine. And while I'm not sure about the XConverter 360 that laugh is currently selling, with the XFPS and the Max Shooter, you can actually still use your passthrough controller on your X360 so long as you plug it back into one of the converter's USB ports.


What should you do if your converter isn't working with your gear?

Troubleshoot! More than half the time, people report that their converters don't work only to find out from a more knowledgeable source that they did something wrong in the process of hooking everything up. If you're encountering problems, start by unplugging everything. Replug in the following order:

1) Your PlayStation X arcade stick or pad
2) Your wired X360 bypass controller
3) Your PS2 to X360 converter into your X360
4) If you find that your converter still isn't working, unplug the converter from your X360, plug in a different PSX stick or pad (which should ideally be already confirmed as working in this thread's first post), and try again.
5) Should you find that the newly plugged in PSX gear works, but your previous gear didn't, great! Report your findings to this thread so Kyle can update the first post detailing what PCBs can and cannot work on your converter.
6) None of your PSX gear working? Then maybe you should try a different bypass controller. If you find your gear working with the new bypass controller, report to this thread that your previous bypass controller didn't work so I can update this post!

That's it! There isn't any more steps since if you did do it all right, your converter should work fine and dandy. If you've exhausted every other option, then you probably have a dud. Now, it'd be a good time to contact the person who sold you your converter to get a replacement, a refund or something.


I understand that some people might be thinking that this was a gigantic waste of my time and might protest against me posting this, but I didn't want this thread to suddenly get a huge influx of useless posts asking questions such as "Would [insert name of X360 controller here] work for [insert PSX to Xbox 360 converter here]?"


bron compatibility thread http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=7242594#post7242594


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 Post subject: Re: PS2>360 converter! reliable! beter laat dan no
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:22 pm 
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Zelf geen ervaring mee (ook geen behoefte aan met 2 X360 sticks in huis) maar ik las inderdaad op SRK dat hij prima (en voor zover mogelijk lag-vrij) werkt.



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:16 pm 
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ziet er goed uit :d. Heb allen een vraagje (ben t elui om zelf op shoryuken te zoeken). Op het plaatje is de wired 360 controller aangesloten. Deze hoeft er toch niet in te blijven of wel?



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:28 pm 
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denk alleen eenmalig om hem in te stellen ofzo


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Elke keer wanneer je de converter op een X360 aansluit moet er een controller in zitten, die kun je na het aansluiten weer eruit halen maar wanneer je de converter ook uit de X360 haalt moet je het helemaal opnieuw doen.



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 Post subject: Re: PS2>360 converter! reliable! beter laat dan nooit!
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heb em nu een paar dagen binnen, tot nu toe werkt alles wat ik er in stop, ook totaal geen lag bij het spelen. vrijwel plug en play simpel gebruiksvriendelijk, en compact!
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Ik heb het ook werkt echt goed! Alleen minder dat je altijd zo'n wired 360 controller aan moet hangen...


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Voyevoda wrote:
Ik heb het ook werkt echt goed! Alleen minder dat je altijd zo'n wired 360 controller aan moet hangen...


waar heb jij hem besteld/gekocht.? Ik zit te wachten op renchi.com totdat ze hem weer in voorraad hebben : /



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ChaozTheory wrote:
Voyevoda wrote:
Ik heb het ook werkt echt goed! Alleen minder dat je altijd zo'n wired 360 controller aan moet hangen...


waar heb jij hem besteld/gekocht.? Ik zit te wachten op renchi.com totdat ze hem weer in voorraad hebben : /

Via srk forums van een user genaamd laugh. Heb al nog eens eerder twee InPin converters (ps2>ps3 lagloos) bij hem besteld, kreeg ze toch wel lekker snel binnen en werkte ook perfect. Die Koreanen zijn echt goed met hun hardware shit.


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